"A luckchange, I see."

(490.6-492.7)  The old man questioning Shaun now wonders who exactly the Nola or Nolan whom Shaun has spoken of is.  Shaun gives Nolan's first name as "Gottgab," but the old man wonders whether Nolan is Shaun's doppelganger, Shem.  Shaun says that he has surpassed this "Treble Stauter" (trouble starter), but the two are united by a woman:  "She's write to him she's levt by me, Jenny Rediviva!"  This woman -- either ALP or Isabel, presumably -- writes letters to each brother, Shaun ("Mr Nobru") and Shem ("Mr Anol").  Talk of receiving letters prompts the old man to ask, "When your contraman from Tuwarceathay is looking for righting that is not a good sign?"  Shaun says that it's not a good sign, hinting at the implications arising from the letter Shem played a part in composing with ALP.

Perhaps because the subject has turned slightly toward women, the old man asks Shaun if he had been with two women named Sindy and Sandy, names perhaps for the two young women in the park.  Shaun responds that he wasn't, because he was "intending a funeral."  Seizing upon this and Shaun's earlier talk of a tryst, the old man asks if Shaun, "without releasing seeklets of the alcove," could confirm whether the old man had heard the name of the man who committed the sin in the park.  Shaun responds with another bit of verse, saying that the man was "Marak," and that he dropped his drawers in the park and had to borrow clothes from the Bishop of York.  This talk brings HCE back to the forefront and prompts one of the old men to say, "A being again in becomings again."

Now comes a shift in the chapter.  It appears that Shaun begins to speak about his father using his mother's voice.  "And he said he was only taking the average grass temperature for green Thurdsday, the blutchy scaliger!" says Shaun, revealing HCE's excuse to ALP for going out to the park that fateful night.  That night, Shaun says, "Mr Hairwigger . . . hadded twinned little curls!"  One of the old men confirms the shift in Shaun's voice (both physically and stylistically).  "How voice you that, nice Sandy man," the old man says.  "Not large goodman is he, Sandy nice.  Ask him this one minute upthrow inner lotus of his burly ear womit he dropped his Bass's to P flat."  But was the affair with the two girls the reason HCE fell, the old man asks?  Yes, Shaun exclaims, he was driven mad ("Loonacied!"), betrayed ("Judascessed!!!!"), and ultimately killed ("faulscrescendied!!!!!!!").